When is Luke gonna pull his head out of his ass and stop picking these stupid stupid stupid movies

Lets face it, without Wes Anderson, Luke is worthless

dude there you go with that fag talk

It is a good movie.

What do you think Eskimo?

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I think you are a fool for not understanding how funny and insightful Idiocracy really is. This movie will start to gain steam as the DVD gets around to people. I've already started to see it happen. Word of mouth will turn this film into a cult classic. It's as scary as it is humorous, because this country is headed in that direction as we speak. The social commentary put forth through this film is on a level almost unparalleled in cinema history. I guess it makes sense that a pinhead like yourself just wouldn't understand the intellectual, deep rooted humor behind this "stupid comedy".

Here is an Washington Post article from January 2007 talking about Idiocracy.

It is titled "Mike Judge's 'Idiocracy': Evidently It Begins at Home" and it sported the reddit headline of ""Idiocracy", the movie FOX didn't want us to see, is out on DVD" in the same month.

Reposted:

Quote:When Mike Judge's highly anticipated futuristic satire "Idiocracy" opened and promptly closed in a few cities last fall (it never played Washington), the blogosphere lit up. Did Twentieth Century Fox, the film's distributor, intentionally dump the movie? Did it have a hand in what most considered the film's chief flaws (a distracting narration, gratuitous expository sequences)? Put simply, did Fox do to "Idiocracy" what it had done to Judge's 1999 comedy "Office Space," and was the new movie eligible for similar cult status?

We may never know precisely who did what to whom and why (although a hilarious sendup of Fox News in the movie may not have helped). What we do know is that "Idiocracy" appears on DVD today, and once again it seems that Judge, best known for TV shows "Beavis and Butt-head" and "King of the Hill," has gotten the fuzzy end of Fox's lollipop. Like "Borat's" dark twin, "Idiocracy" indicts American culture with a combination of scathing humor and barely concealed rage, as Judge projects what the country will look like 500 years from now. His dystopian vision includes avalanches of trash, a U.S. government that has been purchased for corporate sponsorship by a sports drink, and a citizenry that, through demographic reverse Darwinism, has become congenitally fat, lazy, stupid and violent.

Angrier and far less forgiving than "Office Space," Judge's "Idiocracy" doesn't possess the same cult potential, if only because few will be eager to see themselves in the filmmaker's jaundiced mirror. Still, as an example of smart, stingingly funny polemic, "Idiocracy" is essential viewing. If the world is going to hell in any number of handbaskets -- as Judge so acutely demonstrates that it is -- you might as well hitch a ride in his.

"Idiocracy" tells the story of an Army private and major slacker Joe Bowers (Luke Wilson), who in 2005 is drafted to take part in a confidential hibernation program; the Army finds a female counterpart in a prostitute named Rita (Maya Rudolph), and she and Joe are put into individual "pods" before being sedated for a year.

Things go awry, and the two guinea pigs don't wake up for 500 years, by which time the country has become populated by porn-addicted rednecks and Uzi-toting gangstas; the English language has been replaced by a patois of "hillbilly, Valley Girl and inner-city slang." A trashed-out landscape that's part zombie film and part broken-down "Blade Runner," the America of "Idiocracy" has become one vast junk food-entertainment complex, where bread and circuses take the form of super-size burritos and monster truck rallies.

With the help of a dimwit named Frito (Dax Shepard), Joe and Rita try to track down a time machine to return to the 21st century, and on the way, Joe is drafted to serve in the White House. But his picaresque journey through one bleak scenario to the next is a mere hanger for Judge's chief point, which is just how close we are already to his apocalypse of mindless consumption, substance-free politics and anti-intellectualism.

While admittedly imperfect and uneven, "Idiocracy," which was written with Etan Cohen, demonstrates the same incisiveness that characterizes Judge's best work. With luck it will finally find its audience. Like Pogo, Judge has met the enemy -- the question now is whether we're willing to meet ourselves.

Idiocracy (84 minutes) is rated R for language and sex-related humor.

Is there anything that doesn't get the conspiracy treatment these days

"It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you..."

Fox owns the rights to the movie, and would stand to profit if they felt the movie could take off. They obviously didn't get the joke, but I doubt any greedy corporation would turn down profits at the risk of looking bad.

Admittedly, I am having a bit of trouble coming up with clear examples of greedy corporations turning down profits at the risk of looking bad. (partially due to the limited number of examples and partially due to my limited imagination) It is the very nature of greedy corporations to not turn down profits. I am not at all saying it is the norm for corporations the behave like this and I have not idea if this was the case with Idiocracy.

But I'll bet Michael Moore might disagree. He had a difficult time getting Disney to release "Fahrenheit 9/11".

Quote:Disney, which owns the art-house studio, had declined to distribute the movie, saying the documentary and its criticism of President Bush's war on Iraq were too politically charged.
-Reuters

Moore got Harvey and Bob Weinstein to personally buy the rights to the picture from Walt Disney Co. Harvey and Bob Weinstein are the founders of Miramax, the studio that ended up releasing the film. "Fahrenheit" went on to be the top selling Documentary (type) film.

All I am saying is that it is not unheard of for a studio to hold back for fear of what it might do to their image. This is most likely do to looking at profits on a scale much larger than any one film.

I don't think Idiocracy and Fahrenheit have much in common other than being movies shot with film

Idiocracy is a general shot at our lifestyle, while Fahrenheit was blunt force trama directed at the president of the US

I agree that the content of Fahrenheit 9/11 and Idiocracy are not the same but there are some common themes, such as taking a shot at government. However, I am not making any attempt to compare the subject matter of the two movies. I was just trying to prevent the opinions voiced in the Washington Post article from being so easily written off as some wacko conspiracy theory. Bringing Fahrenheit into this discussion was only meant to demonstrate that greedy corporations might forgo short-term profits in the hopes of maintaining a public image that has lead to bigger long-term profits.

It does not necessarily have to be some evil conspiracy theory. There are often very good reasons to conspire.

If anybody cares to, you can check out more articles on the topic gathered at the Wikipedia page.

Moving forward…

Are we getting dumber?

I want to watch the movie again.

Just making conversation

No we're not getting dumber, we've just got so smart that we use calculators and computers.

The future would never fall that far, as there will always be a meddly of dumb, smart, and people like me...oh, did I already say dumb

But they corporate sponsorship theme was hilarious, and marginalizing smart people struck home.

There was a time when reading wasn't just for fags. And neither was writing.

Should I put what I've said repeatedly in person on the record? This seems to be a topic we disagree on considerably and it seems to bother you guys a good bit.

I like to think that I'm usually in on things at the ground level. I usually get to the be the guy that says "this will be big someday" and "I told you it would be good. now let's move on to something new." But I just didn't feel it with this movie.

I like Mike Judge. Actually, after typing that, I wikied the guy. It turns out that I've hated every project he made but one.

Beavis & Butthead: I thought this sucked. I was a goody goody kid at the time. I didn't like the shit they were saying. I didn't like the nervous laugh shit. And I reallydidn't like that there were some kids at school that imitated B&B all the time. This show was the worst thing on TV to me at the time. I've thought many times that I should go back and watch some episodes as a mature adult. I think I might get the jokes that went over my head at the time. Of course, I could hate it even more now...

King of the Hill: This show torments me, not least because my brains decides to be fooled every time and think that King of the Hill means Family Guy. I'm disappointed every time. This approaches, but does not reach, the level of disappointment I felt many mornings during my adolescence when I would browse the TV listings (I think they were paper-only then) and see "The Real Ghostbusters" was showing at the time. I would frantically switch to the proper channel, hoping to see my old friends Bill Murray and Slimer. Instead, I was greeted by a cartoon. My young brain just couldn't register that "The Real" didn't mean "live action". It turns out, as I just learned, that "The Real" was, of course, the result of a legal battle between two companies for naming rights. Anyway, I just don't find King of the Hill to be consistently funny enough to hold my attention.

Office Space: I love this movie. The writing is good, the themes are good, the characters and acting are good, and Jennifer Aniston is, if not a good actress, her usual hot self. I loved this. I loved it enough that I might forget that Mike Judge made B&B and King of the Hill. But then...

Idiocracy comes out. It stars Luke Wilson, who sucks ass when not with Wes Anderson, but kicks it when he is. It stars Maya Moleface, who I just have never been that enamored with. I don't know, call me mole-discriminatory.

As I've said before, this movie would've been great as an SNL skit. It would've been great as either a 30 minute live-action or a Simpsons episode. I just don't think it's that great as a feature length film. The critics agree with me to an extent. What's funny is that I enjoy referencing the film with you guys. When you mention a one-liner or a scene, I think it's funny and laugh. But I don't want to watch it again. This is a new feeling for me. But it reinforces to me that the concept is of high quality. The product just sucks.

Maybe it's just that I'm not a Beavis & Butthead guy...[/b][/i]

OK, I watched some Idiocracy last night and actually found it funnier than ever. I really think it's the mood of the viewer is especially important with this movie. I still have my reservations about the overall quality, but it's got a lot of fun bits.

Thats mighty big of you Richard

In the spirit of fairness, I watched No Country for Old Men and I am Legend recently

I am Legend > No Country in my inflated opinion

finally saw no country for old men. i really liked it. i enjoyed the humor, suspense, and action. the ending was a little disappointing, but i still liked the whole concept of the movie. so, then we watched fargo. i did not like it as much. or at least, the humor wasn't as funny to me. but, i did like both the movies plus i am legend. still haven't seen idiocracy. i will have to get back on that one.

IMHO

FARGO > I am legend

Quote:I am Legend > No Country in my inflated opinion

That's mighty big of you ProAss

Fargo > NCFOM > Idiocracy > I am Legend > a shitload of other movies.

Mike Judge:
Office Space > Beavis & Butthead > Idiocracy > King of the Hill

Coen Bros.:
Lebowski > Fargo > NCFOM > Raising Arizona > Intolerable Cruelity > O Brother (I have not seen many of their other creations)



(No flaming intentions, all in jest)